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Showing posts with label Chicago. Show all posts

The Chicago Story: How CPWR was Exposed

A controversy was triggered in September 2013, when a group that called itself the 'Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions" (CPWR) decided to withdraw from the event that VHP-America was organizing in Chicago to honor Swami Vivekananda as part of his 150th birthday celebrations. This post summarizes the incident in three parts:

part 1) the discussion this triggered in the forum, the research done by Hindus in finding out who supported the boycott, who CPWR really was, the impact the debate in this forum had on the subsequent trajectory of events post-withdrawal. Particularly shocking is that CPWR turned out to be not what it appears on the surface. Some fact-checking indicated that this organization was incorporated in 1988 and had nothing to do with 1893 World parliament of religions that Vivekananda graced! Stunning how and disturbing why the Hindu representatives signed up for this without doing any background check!

part 2) the positive outcome (resounding win) for Hinduism with its figurehead Hindu representatives resigning, and finally,

part 3) A manifesto for Hindu representation in Interfaith bodies, going forward and being more proactive.

Part-1
The thread was initiated by a post by NS that posted a news article carried by HinduismToday.com, that is summarized below:
"... a respectable interfaith organization the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions (CPWR) decided to withdraw from the event that VHPA was organizing in Chicago.

VHP (America) is holding event marking 150th birth anniversary of Swami Vivekanda which will feature Baba Ramdev as the chief guest (see here). It is "co-hosted" by many Hindu organizations based in the USA. Air India is also listed as one of the co-host.
120-year old CPWR is the organization that invited Swami Vivekanda to Chicago in1893. In a statement issued today [see here, issued by Mary Nelson, CPWR's Executive Director] CPWR said:

"We honor Swami Vivekananda and that legacy he left creating interfaith cooperation to build a just, peaceful, and sustainable world. Our organization was not informed that an event we were asked to co-sponsor was also co-sponsored by organizations promoting controversial political positions. While we do honor and promote the ideals of Swami Vivekananda, we respectfully withdraw our name from any co-hosting or co-sponsorship of the 'World Without Borders' event and any connection to this event or its other co-sponsors."

....Coalition Against Genocide (CAG) [see here for a list of members--it is mostly comprised of Muslim, leftist and Christian groups] welcomed the move by the CPWR to disassociate itself VHPA's event...

(another post records CAG's cheerleading press release, summarized here)
"
Coalition Against Genocide (CAG - http://coalitionagainstgenocide.org/ ), a broad alliance dedicated to justice and accountability for the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 (sic), and for continued violations of human rights in Gujarat (sigh), today welcomed the resolution adopted by the Board of Trustees of the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions (CPWR), ....

In a letter to CPWR Executive Director Dr. Mary Nelson, CAG spokesperson Dr. Raja Swamy congratulated the CPWR on advancing the cause of interfaith harmony...."
".....This incident exemplifies attempts by Hindutva organizations to legitimize their virulent politics by appropriating the legacies of important historical personalities such as Swami Vivekananda," said Dr. Raja Swamy, ...."

Prasad's response (the text is a bit garbled in the yahoo forum, but I have provided the gist) was to respectfully  request that two Hindu members associated with CPRW resign their posts in protest:
" Anju Bhargavji and Anant Rambachanji,
whatever be the outcome of your efforts to reinstate cpwr's sponsorship, I request you both resign as directors of this organization. When they cancelled the commitment they made without consulting you, your presence there does not matter, ..."

Arun also had the same opinion:
"... shows that how artbitrarily [CPWR] is run and their decision process is biased and undemocratic. It also shows that how intolerant the leadership of CPWR has become over the years to promote their own agenda and politics. I believe that all board members of CPWR, who were not consulted for this decision should resign..."

Vishal disagreed and favors an alternative approach:
"..Non-cooperation is less ineffective than fighting from within."

Rajiv's response: What "fighting from within?" I dont see them having done that. In fact, in one case I was explicitly told that the person WILL NOT FIGHT to risk sticking her neck out...

To fight from within the representative must first spell out the positions being represented, and the policy for fighting for each of these. Otherwise its not even clear as to WHAT they might fight for, assuming they decide to fight at all?

The only fighting going on is positioning personal careers, prestige, glamor, PR, etc...

Furthermore, there is also the issue of COMPETENCE beyond intentions. Even if the intentions could be turned around, there remains the question whether a given person is cut out for the job. Our community must learn to hold Hindu leaders accountable for performance just like political leaders are hired/fired in elections if they do not perform. Lets end this idolatry based on personalities."

Next, there is a very interesting (but tangential) post by AJ and a response by Rajiv about the forum responding by circulating emails.

A professor (VR) from Bangalore was upset by the actions of CPWR:
"The [CPWR] under the influence of Christian and Islamic fundamentalists and anti-Hindu leaders has already ditched the ideals of Swami Vivekananda and buried them."

Abhimanyu posts the findings from his investigative work on CPWR. This appears to be the first of a few crucial posts that began to open people's eyes to what this CPWR really is, and we carry this report almost fully. Also important to note, that he also looks at possible links to the 2014 General elections in India.

"1.  Who is the Coalition Against Genocide?  -  this is a notorious nexus of Indian Communists/ Islamists / Christian Missionaries - with a clear mission to demonize Hinduism and Hindus around the world.  People like Raja Swamy are prominent members of FOIL and its sister groups like the Campaign to Stop Funding Hate (the same group that attacked the IDRF and the Hindu Students Council). On this blog, I have written extensively about FOIL and its network, building on Mr. Malhotra's Breaking India as well as some other works out there.

2.  CAG, CSFH, FOIL, IAMC (Indian American Muslim Council) are partners in this...  They were also behind the 2005 campaign to block Narendra Modi's visa to the US.  Angana Chatterjee is one of the key players in this nexus also.

3.  Recently, Raja Swamy, Biju Mathew, Shabnam Hashmi, Ram Puniyani, Harsh Mander, etc. Have started a website against Narendra Modi, called Pheku.in.  This site purports to expose Modi's "lies" and discredit his model of development.  I have recently written about this on my blog as well.  It is interesting to note that this Pheku.in site is registered in Texas, which gives away its interconnections with foreign groups like FOIL that are attempting to "break India".  They also sympathize with and also hold terrorist Ishrat Jahan in high respect.

...
5.  Initially, when the CPWR issued a statement of withdrawal, there were two signatures - one of Mary Nelson, the Exec Director and the other one of Imam Abdul Malik Mujahid, the Chairman of the Board of Trustees.  Now, if you go to their site, you only see Mary Nelson's signature!  Mr. Mujahid's signature has been "whitened out", but one can clearly see a small black dot of a spot missed by the web artist next to Nelson's signature!  Why did CPWR remove his signature?"

Rajiv comment: Good 'forensic' work. I wonder why our eminent "Hindu representatives" have been sleeping through all this and woke up only after we gave them a jolt?

Karthik adds:
"...the question of "Secularism" has entered the public discourse in a big way. Specifically, it is being suggested that a person who is otherwise suitable to run the country in terms of governance record, should be disqualified on the strength of an alleged lack of commitment to "secularism", which is a threat to the "Idea of India."

I have written a blog post about this here:   As you can see, the post makes reference to many of Rajiv ji's ideas.."
 




Vishal clarifies: "Let me clarify. Resigning from posts does not achieve much. I am not privy to private information on whether these two members will fight it out or not. However, if they resign, if opens the possibility of some rabid leftist (who is Hindu in name only) to replace them and then and work positively against our Dharma in the future..."

Rajiv comment: Let me clarify. Defending incompetence does not help much. It lowers the standard and makes incompetence the new normal. Someone could also say, "let the corrupt, incompetent government in India remain, because if they leave we could get someone worse". Let us stop operating in fear...

The point is that Hindus never appointed these individuals in the first place. Secondly, they have not produced any resistance from our side by way of offering criticism of the organization's positions. Only now they are running around doing PR and press releases because we have exposed this scandal. ...

...There is a prominent man [] who tried to pressure me to not critique Anju Bhargava in my book, but that failed. He even went to Swami Dayananda Saraswati along with Anju and they camped there for a few days asking swamiji to withdraw his invitation for me to speak at the ashram's annual day; but swamiji refused to do so. I am also aware that other organizations have pressure points. Such "networking" notwithstanding, we must be objective and not get influenced by linkages. Otherwise we are no better than the dominant nexuses that operate this way except that they have been winning. We must hold ourselves to an objective standard in evaluating leadership."  

 Rajiv further comments:
"People have asked me to suggest what "our" Hindu representatives on CPWR must go at this point. I feel they ought to write an open letter to CPWR that gets posted widely by them. It should make the following points. I am not suggesting exact language, merely the main points they should cover:

Letter to CPWR:
  1. We as practicing Hindus, and as individuals representing the interests of Hinduism in CWPR, are very upset at the decision that was made to boycott Swami  Vivekananda's anniversary celebrations, and we would like that decision reversed immediately.
  2. We are troubled that we were never consulted or involved in such a major decision being made, which makes our Hindu community doubt whether we speak for them in this forum at all. It would be unimaginable, hypothetically, for you to make a similar decision against Islam without even bothering to tell in advance and consult the Muslim representatives in your organization.... 
  3. It is clear that the process leading to your decision was opaque rather than transparent. Individuals with personal agendas and political pressure acted secretly rather than through a process carried out in an above board manner....
  4. We are sending each of the trustees and each member of all committees at CPWR a copy of an important book, titled, "Breaking India", which exposes the kinds of nefarious activities by many persons who acted in making this recent decision. In the interest of transparency and allowing all sides of an issue to be heard, we seek the right to articulate the point of view of many Hindus. After your review of this book, we would like CPWR to host a public debate on the charges and allegations being made in this book - concerning the nexus that is operating to undermine Hinduism. Let both sides speak and debate each other in an amicable manner. This is the true spirit of open intellectual discourse that CPWR claims to represent...
We hope to hear from you very soon on these requests which we feel are fair....In case you find our request unacceptable, then please consider this as our letter of resignation from your organization.
Signed...
.............................
My closing remarks: I would like us to pressure all Hindu representatives to put out such a letter. Let their loyalties become clear. We must get past goody-goody PR behavior. We have had enough nonsense from self serving leaders.


Sheshadri notes:
"...FOIL is dead against Infinity Foundation. I know for a fact how FOIL fanatics try -by hook or crook - to foil university programs sponsored by Infinity Foundation. They are more aware of the power of genius of Hindu Thought than most of our own people. When "Sarve janaH sushi no bhavantu" catches up there can be no room for "workers of the world unite" or "only my god is god" creeds. No wonder we will face in future more virulent as well as subtle forms of opposition. They will leave no stone unturned - literally" 


Abhimanyu uncovers more details:
"Ubaid Shaikh, co-founder of CAG, IAMC (Indian American Muslim Council, formerly known as Indian Muslim Council USA) and founder of Indian Muslim Advocacy Network (Imannet, whose site www.imannet.com, has been "under construction" for who knows how long) is friends with Imam Abdul Malik Mujahid, the Chairman of the Board of Trustees.  Mujahid is the founder of Muslim Peace Coalition USA, another advocacy group that is very popular in advancing the image of Islam and Peace.  See the two links below:

In the above link, these guys, especially Ubaid, while condemning the attack on thw Wisconsin Gurudwara, nefariously weaves in connection to "hate-filled" Americans and "Hindu Extremists" (READ RSS, VHP, etc.), saying how these Hindus inspire hate amongst Americans!
Check out this second link -

In here, these two orgs squarely blame the Norway killings as being inspired by "Hindu Nationalist Ideology"!"
 
Rajiv shares a response from Anju only briefly summarized here, stating her position:
"I want you to know that both Anant and I have fought really hard and supported VHPA in this matter as you know from the joint statement we sent out. However we are outvoted. There are people who have their own agendas.  Since I found out I have spent most of the time on this. Negative attacks on me which incite people will not help the Hindu cause..."

Rajiv's response:

".... troubling items in your statement.

1) Earlier you had said that this decision by CWPR was made without your knowledge and you and Anant were taken by surprise. Only afterwards you reacted (once the community started pressuring you). Now you saying that you and Anant were outvoted (and hence knew of the decision being considered). Which version is true?
2) Secondly, if there was a vote in CPWR, when was it held ? Who voted for the resolution and who voted against it? Also, who drafted and proposed the resolution for vote? These names must be made public as per the norms of any public foundation. The community must know this, and its YOUR JOB to keep us informed.

3) Thirdly, I disagree with your view that the Hindus you claim to represent should have no right to criticize you regardless of your performance. You did not consult any of us prior to the resolution against Swami Vivekananda's anniversary event being put out as a press release. Now you expect us to support you even though you have not shown competence in representing us. ...Please note that the same pattern occurred in another organization where you represented Hindus for one year. I documented that fiasco in my book, BREAKING INDIA, and it bothered you. ....

4) You write that the "smart and strategic" thing would be for us to focus on those who do such negative things against us. But how can we put our focus on such persons unless and until YOU disclose their names in detail - I mean EVERY ONE OF THEM.

5) You seem only concerned about "negative attacks" on you. You did not say a word about how the conduct of CPWR that you serve has attacked Hinduism, which is larger than any one individual like you or me....

6) Finally, now that you and Anant have acknowledged that CPWR has hoodwinked the Hindus, should you not resign in protest - thereby sending the message that you are not pets sitting there to legitimize their actions in exchange for being given some "importance"? Please consider that such a bold action by you and Anant would boost your standing, because it would show that Hindus cannot be taken for granted as a bunch of morons led by morons. I hope you are now aware (as per Arvind Kumar's post) that Ms. Nelson who runs CPWR is falsely advertising that CPWR was somehow linked to the [1893] Chicago event named the World Parliament of Religions. She has cleverly used the name of the original organization and you did not know this earlier"


Part-2
In another thread, Arvind [mentioned in Rajiv's response above to Anju] posts some startling findings on CPWR that totally exposes their membership, agenda, and modus operandi. We only briefly summarize his post. Read it in its original form to grasp the full impact of what CPWR was up to.

" ...This group was formed only in 1988 (Document from Sec of State office is below).
The attempt to claim the legacy of Vivekananda by a group calling itself the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions is a FALSE PORTRAYAL of the truth. The page on their website purportedly containing the history of the organization contains a timeline that starts in 1893.
....
...had nothing to do with organizing the event in 1893 at which Vivekananda spoke! To learn about the real organizers of the event in 1893, click here and here (original news items from 1893). ..
Mary Nelson is a "progressive" ... For evidence that she belongs to a "progressive" group, click here.


Mary Nelson has also been associated with Rod Blagojevich ... ...If their values are like those of Rod Blagojevich's,
...
  INCORPORATED ONLY IN 1988!!!
CORPORATION FILE DETAIL REPORT

 Entity Name COUNCIL FOR A PARLIAMENT OF THE WORLD'S RELIGIONS  File Number 55101108
 Status ACTIVE
 Entity Type CORPORATION  Type of Corp NOT-FOR-PROFIT
 Incorporation Date (Domestic) 05/27/1988  State ILLINOIS
 Agent Name MARY K NELSON  Agent Change Date 09/26/2012
 Agent Street Address 70 EAST LAKE ST #205  President Name & Address
 Agent City CHICAGO  Secretary Name & Address
 Agent Zip 60601  Duration Date PERPETUAL
 Annual Report Filing Date 04/15/2013  For Year 2013
 Old Corp Name09/22/1988 - COUNCIL FOR A PARLIAMENT OF WORLD RELIGIONS

Rajiv comment:
" I am glad Arvind brought this to our attention. Does it mean our "Hindu reps" did not do any due diligence all this while - just joined it and started serving its interests? It turns out the woman Ms. Nelson who signed the letter against this weekend's Vivekananda event is the same person who formed this organization 25 years ago. Falsely advertised to be formed in 1893 to promote the spirit of Vivekananda, it was actually formed recently just to capitalize on that event's prestige. Moreover, it is NOT operating in the spirit of Vivekananda. In fact just the opposite by insulting him. Nelson is a Christian, linked to World Council of Churches, various Muslim activists like Eboo Patel among other "religious activists"... It is dangerous to "network" in this field esp if one is lazy and not doing one's homework."


Ravi notes:
"It appears that Rajiv's email (especially point #6) has had its impact. Both Bhargava and Rambachan appear to have resigned from CPWR, per this news report.

Rajiv comment:"Indeed. But let us see this as a positive watershed event where Hindus came together to say "enough, we wont accept bias against us any more from any organization that is claiming to be neutral."

Let us consider this as a loss for CPWR. Not having Hindus represented voids their claim to pluralism. Hinduism is the most pluralistic faith of all major ones, and this absence of Hindus should be positioned as something that discredits them. We must engage such inter faith bodies from a position of strength rather than going as beggars to let us in on their terms and treat us as third class." 


Another post from Rajiv sharing more details.
"This thread seems to have had some impact. I am glad.

Some members here sent it to the Hindus who had got themselves appointed on the Council for a Parliament of World Religions, thereby putting pressure on them. Two of them have issued the following statement a short while back:

Joint statement from Anju Bhargava and Anant Rambachan regarding the Chicago event with CPWR

"We, Anju Bhargava and Anant Rambachan, found out on September 14th, through media reports, that the Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions (CPWR) had withdrawn its participation in a Chicago event "World Without Borders," celebrating the 150th Birth Anniversary of Swami Vivekananda. We were not consulted about this decision. Once we found out, we requested  an explanation for the Parliament's decision.  We have also formally requested the Parliament to reverse its decision to withdraw from co-hosting/co-sponsoring the Chicago event. We are working with Parliament to get this issue resolved harmoniously.".

Rajiv comment: Its a good start for them to take such a stand against CPWR, but this must have teeth in it. If such a boycott by CPWR had happened against an Islamic icon's anniversary celebration, the Muslim representatives would not have been caught off guard...As a group claiming to foster harmony this behavior by CPWR is unacceptable. Certainly, many of us disagree strongly with beliefs of some religious organizations but the CPWR would not reject those organizations' legitimacy just because we found them offensive.

We must keep up the pressure on every Hindu who makes a career out of "representing Hinduism"in various bodies; we must demand that he or she must speak up for us assertively even if that is not in their personal vested interest.


Part-3
Sant comments:
" ...he entire episode at CPWR is a wake-up call for the followers of our Hindu faith. ....

May I suggest that we form a group consisting of individuals from leading Hindu organizations in the US. , We (who will be 'we' here) will need to define the qualifications of the persons to serve in such a group along with all so many other details will need to be worked out. ....One of tasks for this organization would be make recommendations to various Inter-Faith organizations on the individual being considered for serving in a significant role, claiming to represent our community.

I was convinced from the outset that CPWR will not reverse their decision once made. In fact, the overwhelming no-votes shows the enormous challenges we face. This could not have been a one-time issues. Majority of their trusteeship's anti-Hindu feeling had to have been present (and visible) all along. ......" 
Rajiv's Notes after the CPWR victory: The Way Ahead
"In light of the recent victory in the CPWR saga, it is  a time to think how the Hindus should proceed going forward.

There will be many opportunities and offers that various individuals and organizations will have to join such movements. So let us formulate a list of principles that any Hindu representative should adopt openly and publicly as part of his or her participation. For instance, I would propose the following kinds of principles that could be turned into a sort of manifesto that our leaders are asked to accept. This is just off the top of my head thinking and we have to sort these out in more detail:

1) We as Hindu leaders oppose various common positions that are biased and lack authenticity, such as the following examples:

- Aryan Invasion/Migration Theories

- Allegations that Hinduism causes caste abuses, women's abuses, minority abuses, etc. Such allegations must bear the burden of proof and Hindus must be given a chance to fair representation in such due processes. Such claims must be put on par with the facts concerning other religions and Hinduism should not get treated more harshly than other in such evaluations.

- Digestion attempts, sameness positions, mapping of Sanskrit non-translatables, mapping of our categories and framework on to others in ways that compromise our distinctiveness and authenticity.

- Theories that Hinduism did not exist until British influence caused Vivekananda and others to manufacture it. Again, we must be given opportunities to debate such nonsensical positions.

- Inaccurate history of various ideas that actually originated in Indian civilization but are taught as originating elsewhere.

2) Major books, reports and speakers who represent the Hindu position on important matters must be given equal pace on forums as the representatives of other major faiths are. These individuals must not be selected in a way to avoid "controversy", as long as the subject matter being presented is of scholarly merit. Changing minds often requires controversy. In other words, Hinduism should no longer be represented by benign, goody-goody types who wont rock the boat for whatever reason. ...

3) Our representatives must fight instances where a Hindu thinker, guru, political leader, organization, etc. gets targeted without due process and without fair and reasonable proof. This is what happened in this latest saga at CPWR. I have personally faced this bias for 20 years because the Hinduphobic side cannot respond to what I write, and its easy to badmouth me just  to try and muzzle me..."

4) "Breaking India" type of forces must be called out, exposed and we must go on the offensive. Just like some forces xyz torpedoed the Vivekananda event, our reps must be able to do such things to others when we have fair and reasonable grounds. For instance, I see lots of "breaking India" individuals and groups enjoying the limelight with no organized resistance from our Hindu representatives.
... If we take this step we will have matured a lot."
Kaajal responds:
"... I'd like to volunteer to take the lead on coming up with our list of expectations for Hindu leaders..."

Rajiv comment: 
"This is a good idea..

My recommended step 1 is to develop a draft on the core Hinduism positions that any future representative must get educated on and must uphold. My initial input is in the post I did yesterday to start another thread on such a "manifesto". Such a draft needs to be debated and then we can lobby for people to adopt it at least as a starting point." 
 

RMF Summary: Week of February 16-22, 2011

February 17: 
Siddha or Tamil Medicine
Namaste:
In the 20th century, traditional medical practice in Tamil Nadu became part of a politics of a separate Tamil identity. According to one M. S. Purnalingam, Aryan ayurvedic medicine only began in 500 CE, long after the origin of the Tamil Siddha medicine. V.R. Madhavan, a Siddha manuscript scholar, subscribes to the Tamil nationalist narrative and argues that Aryan invaders pillaged "the greatness of Tamil culture in all its branches" ....

February 20
Prasad of Chicago has organized a worldwide conf call open to the public to discuss BI
Prasad of Chicago has organized a worldwide conf call open to the public to discuss the book. After my brief overview, there will be a Q&A period. Participants...

February 20
Response to a question that will be discussed in tonight's conf call
(excerpts)... QUESTION: I have read the book thrice. Some incidents have shook India and Hindu society in the last five or six years whether they are followers of a particular Sadhu or not. My questions are:
1)The arrest of Kanchi acharya finds no place in the book?
2)Also, the Nithyananda episode is also not mentioned.
Why is it so?
ANSWER: (by Rajiv Malhotra)
The question indicates that the book's core thesis has not been understood. There have been numerous writings about Hindu gripes pointing out injustices against them. This book is NOT one of them. It is not a book on Hinduism as such, nor about Christianity per se. It is not a random compendium of incidents that cause pain to Hindus. Given gthe innovative and original nature of its thesis, it calls on the reader to read with a fresh perspective, and to NOT treat it as some prior matter already being discussed.

This book is about a certain kind of threat to India, one that is not being written about adequately today. The book's particular approach shifts the discourse into the realm of the armed forces, security agencies, and foreign policy. This is a dramatic paradigm shift in how the dots are connected....

February 21
India needs a TV news channel
India needs a few TV channels and newspapers and magazines to project the truth. The current news organizations have been co-opted too and they are influencing..

February 21
deconstruction of inimical forces ...
Thanks to Rajiv Malhotra ji for writing this great book, and setting up this mailing list. It is apparent that there has to be some coordination and long-term...

February 22
other online passages re: break-up of India
Dear Sri Rajiv, I enjoyed your conference call and look forward to getting the book. I am glad that my perspective has expanded to comprehend that the..








RMF Summary: Week of October 29-November 4, 2012 - Part 2

Readers who arrived here via a twitter link (or have a twitter account) and are  eager to contribute are requested to tweet/RT or post comments in the group discussion, since there are a couple of calls for volunteers to assist and/or provide critical feedback.

How you can assist:
1. Sanskrit text references for or against views expressed by Rajiv ji in Part-1. Read the summary (and the entire discussion in RMF) prior to jumping in.

2. Logistical help in Chicago. See Nov3 post below.

Part-1 of the week's summary can be found here.


Part 2

November 3 (Rajiv Malhotra information post)

Panel discussion on BD at AAR, Chicago, November 16th
On Nov 16th in Astoria Room, Hilton Chicago Hotel, my book BEING DIFFERENT will be discussed by a panel of academic scholars. This event is part of the annual conference of the American Academy of Religions. For details, please visit: http://www.hcstudies.org/am.html

I hope to see several of you and your friends in the audience. There will be three speakers on this panel, after whom I shall give my response, and then there will be Q&A from the audience. This is an important event to bring my ideas into the mainstream academy through debate and discussion. All three talks plus my response will then be published in a journal in late 2013.

(This is totally separate from the International Journal of Hindu Studies' special issue on BD that is scheduled to come out at the end of 2012. This special issue will have 6 major articles on BD, by those supporting its ideas and by those critical of them, along with my 40 page response. It is through such interventions that my ideas can enter the discourse inside the academy for serious new scholars to take up.)

Call for help: I need some local help in Chicago for this Nov 16 event. If there are people on this list who wish to help me, it would be most appreciated to contact me by email privately. I would like to chat by phone/email about the details of the assistance. For instance, a sponsor has kindly agreed to donate a free copy to each attendee at the event. But since the donor is not based in Chicago, we need a local Chicago person who can help with the logistics to accept postal/UPS delivery of the books and help in the book's distribution at the event. I can discuss further once we have someone lined up to help.

I am now in India for a brief visit to deliver a major talk at the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha bi-annual gathering of top leaders in Ahmedabad. That is the most important body of Hindu leaders - most shankaracharyas and many other prominent leaders of sampradayas will attend. Over 100 major Hindu groups are expected to be represented by their senior most leader. They have given me an extensive time slot to present my work. Its a rare honor to address such a gathering. The goal is to influence the leaders' thinking so their respective organizations can take up these ideas and spread them further in their own ways.

Regards,
rajiv


November 3 (continuing discussion)
Yoga in recent news 
Related BBC link

"....From what I've read, the Ashtanga Yoga that was taught and propagated by Yogacharaya Shri K. Pattabhi Jois is an astoundingly medically beneficial technique. There seem to be countless miraculous stories of individuals who have
overcome massive injuries with Guruji's (and Ashtanga Yoga's) help.

However, questions naturally arise as to how Ashtanga Yoga, which was painstakingly realized/developed and passed down through generations, will continue in the future. Will the rigorous guru-shishya parampara continue, with devotion to and respect for Hindu/Dharmic sources?"



November 3
Vanishing of Indian Pre-Islamic dresses with coming of Islam
The issue of the islamic effect on Indian dresses is much talked about privately among people. We all know that the traditional dresses like salwar kameez etc...

November 4 (continuing discussion from October 14)
Christian conversion efforts in Bangalore.
This discussion thread continues to elicit responses over the last two weeks. A commentator notes:




"Rajiv ji but your blogs and talks (in u-tube) have been very very useful. I have
been able generate a lot of interest amongst my friend circle.
Surprisingly/sadly there is very little coverage in Indian media about your
books and your other work (correct me if I am wrong). But certainly lot of
people have started to take note of your videos of late."

Rajiv comment: The number of views for my youtube videos is very small when you compare with popular thinkers on similar topics. Regarding Indian media's lack of coverage - you are correct. One can understand the posture of the media who are ideologically opposed. But the tragedy is that even those who think along similar lines are more interested in plagiarizing and turning it into their own works no matter how diluted or poorly argued. Also, there is frenzy among the so-called hindu activists to boost personal careers and status by using whatever ideas they can quickly pick up and start throwing out as one-liners, even if they dont really get it. All this causes dilution of support for the heavy research and publishing work that remains mostly undone...




Rajiv Malhotra's major lecture at Chicago Balaji Temple, June 3, 2012

Rajiv Malhotra provides some context for his major lecture at the Chicago Balaji Temple:


"While my recent book has been discussed in numerous forums, each talk takes on a flavor depending on the specific audience. The talk in the above link was before an audience of well informed Indian Americans dedicated to their dharmic tradition. The focus, therefore, was specifically to convince such an audience of the major tenets of BEING DIFFERENT and why these matter to modern day practitioners.
This is the final part of my lecture series in Chicago this summer. Earlier I had sent out the videos of my other events during that trip.
I hope you will enjoy this video."

RMF Summary: Week of October 10-17, 2012

We list the various topics that we discussed the last seven days. In future, we will try to focus on a few discussions and distill the moderators and readers comments. My office work is on emergency mode, so apologies. Again, register for free and contribute as well as enjoy the discussions at RMF.

Oct 10: A Blog's interest in Chicago Videos
The chicago talk of Rajiv Malhotra can be found here and the blog link here.


Oct 11: Religious conversions - a problem I see
I have been part of this group for some time, but this is my first post. I would request you all to comment on a practical problem that I am seeing.
  1. As all of you have noted, Religious conversions are taking place at an alarming rate in India, specially in Andhra Pradesh. I have been interacting with some NGOs who have given me statistics of conversion which are pretty alarming (I am not quoting them here, since I have not verified those numbers).
... [5 comments so far]

Oct 12: Credibility crisis among Indian Christian leaders?
Even if below observation is right, I do believe in 20 years time Christian leadership will be seen in major sections of society. At present they are ...
Related article link is here.

Oct 12:  regarding Chicago video
In the Q&A session video in Chicago, Rajiv, you said, that gurus should do thorough purv paksha of Christianity which would need a 4 years course. I would consider it a waste of time for those Hindu gurus if they delved deeply into the belief system of Christianity, as the basic and major faults of Christianity are easily to grasp, yet...

Here's the link to the video.

Oct 13: Intense Q&A at two major Chicago temples
(see previous Oct 12 post for link to Q&A video)
Question: Does Christianity make people more individualistic than Hinduism?  Are Westerners more individualistic than Indians because of their religion?

Response: It is a common belief that Westerners are more individualistic and Indians are stuck in their caste or jati and they are stuck in a hierarchyand are not able to think for themselves.  This belief is one of the stereotypes that European Indologists built about us.  I argue against this stereotype by offering many counter-examples.... [4 comments so far]





Oct 13:  Re: Christian mysticism (was Science and Sanskrit tradition:..)
In light of the dark Christian mystical experiences catalogued by Surya below, does anyone know of any publications which have investigated differences between...
This is a very interesting thread that is a continuation of an original thread that started off as a debate between a western scholar planning to write a paper relating to Hinduism and India and Rajiv's response to his questions, followed by some very nuanced responses from several readers. This thread deserves a lot more space and we will discuss the original thread and the followup in depth in our next post.

Oct 16:  A Neuropsychiatric Approach to Deconstructing Western Civilization
Dear all, I came across a book by the British psychiatrist Dr. Iain McGilchrist, entitled "The Master And His Emissary," which puts forward a very interesting...

Oct 17:  Christian conversion efforts in Bangalore.
So I was walking down a very busy road in the South of Bangalore and got this flyer handed out to me. It was about how jesus could solve all my problems in.. [4 comments so far]

Oct 17:  Western confidence and Indian youths
In one of the chapter of BD, Rajiv explains that Indians youths today have been mostly westernized and the confidence they possess is western(or american) and... [10 comments]

Oct 17:  Foreign invaders were unimpressed by Hindustan
Rajiv, Sir, I have difficulty following your notion of "digestion". What is being digested and where is the rational debating framework? As you know,...[12 comments]
A person named Eddie quotes specimen like Babur, Macaulay, Amartya Sen in this polemic that has been rehashed so many times. Should readers rush to counter these claims or point him to volumes of information that have completed bypassed Eddie