The post below generated an extensive discussion. Click the link to read thru the feedback and comments.
This is another very important thread that deals with intellectually and factually countering Marxist revisionism that is rampant in India, which we summarize in depth below.
followup response on 'Aavarana':
"are there any english translation available for Aavarana?"
Parts were translated & posted here:
"Aavarana deals with the "real" history of India, and starts in the backdrop of ruins of Vijayanagar, the last great Hindu empire. Robert Sewell, had written a book on the empire titled - "A Forgotten Empire : Vijayanagar". It has written based on the basis of Portuguese Chronicles and accounts of the Muslim historian Firistah. The text is available on gutenberg -
The history is fascinating, and it is also very informative - and lays bare all facts about Tughlaq, his empire, the tyranny endured by Hindus in his rule, his attacks on South India, the excesses of Bahamani Sultans, and subsequent history(has described by Firistah himself)
The success of Vijayanagar, Devaraya and Krishandevaraya's spectaular rule, and the factors leading to downfall of empire are also well written. Will post more resources on the real history of India and Indian empires."
atrineer provides another useful reference:
"For the inquisition at Goa, A.K.Priolkar's 'The Goa inquisition' is a good book. Like wise there is a book written by a french doctor named Dillon, who was a victim of the Goa Inquisition."
This thread generated a lot of discussion. Click the link below to read in full.
George provides another reference:
"... Martyrdom is the indispensable fuel for the Abrahamic engine, without which it wouldn't have made much progress. For this very reason early Western Christianity was called the "Cult of the Saints". For more information read "The Cult of the Saints: Its Rise and Function in Latin Christianity (The Haskell Lectures on History of Religions)" by Peter Brown.
Martyrdom is the main ingredient in the conditioning cocktail of young men and women whose flesh and blood are more or less used as manure for the growth of Abrahamic religions... "
Karigar comments on LTTE's suicide bombers and Hinduism:
"Also, as far as the LTTE being "hindu" is concerned, the cat has been out of that bag for a while, especially after it's leader Methodist Velupillai Pirabakaran's killing. The few hindus at the higher echelons of LTTE hierarchy had a bad time, many left.
Not to mention that Breaking India carries a substantial portion of how the Church nexus works in Sri Lanka with the displaced Tamils. The LTTE was given moral & ideological support by Christian churches is a well documented fact.
While there is a certain universal glamour to the concept of martyrdom (yes we honor Bhagat Singh, and have historically honored Abhimanyu amongst many other warrious who died fighting against odds), the key points made by Rajiv need to be considered:
(a) to provoke situations where the "martyr" then goes & dies for the "cause" and
(b) to theologically justify that as a major-tenet of the faith
-these are Abrahamic innovations and the least they can do is introspect on the facts. "
Anil wonders if Rajiv's killer was Hindu:
"Was the Tamil who killed Rajiv Gandhi a Hindu or a Christian? I assumed he was Hindu but some have said he was not. Does anyone know the truth?"
Rajiv Malhotra responds to Anil:
Sonia G wanted the jailed woman in Rajiv G's murder case to be pardoned. Said she had repented (a Christian act) and deserved redemption. This was protested by many in opposition. I dont know what the courts decided...
Rajiv Malhotra adds:
"When evangelism appropriates the cult of glorifying martyrs, that is the deadly mixture we are talking about. If a tradition has no evangelical mandates from God then there is no large organized campaign to expand, and in this case a random martyr here and there does not amount to the same thing..."
Vedamohabir provides additional information:
"A major reason for the mothers' support for sons' martyrdom in Islam, is that the son can then intercede/mediate on their and several dozen relatives' behalf to facilitate entry into Paradise."
Rajiv Malhotra responds:
"Mormons also believe in a system of someone being able to
relocate dead relatives to heaven. A distant relative of mine who has converted to Mormonism is desperately trying to raise funds that he must donate to their church, and also trying to convince his parents to convert, because that opens the possibility to get all his forefathers moved to heaven waiting them for a great family reunion. This man is well educated, raised Hindu (the sameness/sufi kind) and was once a top executive at ATT."
Rajiv Malhotra provides additional references that you will have to click on your own :)
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Rajiv Malhotra requests readers to post their comments on newsgram where the original article appeared and shares the reason why his amazing Sulekha articles that opened the eyes of so many Hindus around the world stopped appearing. The reasons are not surprising.
".... Besides I want to encourage that web site, which is today roughly the size and popularity where Sulekha.com was when I was invited to write there. I became Sulekha's most popular blogger by far, and sulekha turned into the most visited web site in its space. Unfortunately, thats when friends of Courtright-Doniger-Hawley lobbied to deny me equal access in a big fight that I had started there. I am told that advertisers in NY were called by certain members of SAJA, to threaten Sulekha with loss of sponsorship if they continued to let me express my opinions. Thats when Sulekha did its u-turn. Not only did they do nasty things that were one-sided, they also stopped responding to all my emails. Many mutual friends tried on my behalf but same results. Lately they are changing again and want my writings back. But this time around I decided that we need many such outlets, not just one or two. Hence, Newsgram would be a good one to help build up.
I have just started writing what will turn out to be an enormous number of challenges to the prevailing discourse. This will trouble many persons, which I wish could be avoided. But in the interest of truth, I have to accept their anger as collateral damage. (Caution: The Truth will ultimately set you free; but in meanwhile it might also piss you off!)..."
Another followup thread
Re: "The Dangerous Idea of Martyrdom" - LTTE anti-Hindu
Manas responds to a book request:
"Volume 6 available here:
In the top right corner, there is a download link.
Vishal provides another option for interested readers:
"All 8 volumes can be dowloaded as Word docs from scribd.com"
[here's the link]
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